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Towards a Floer theory for Mars I -- Twisted Zeeman systems

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Periodic collisional solutions of twisted Zeeman systems can be detected variationally after regularizing collisions in non-local Lagrangian and Hamiltonian setups.

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This paper develops a variational approach to finding periodic orbits in a singular system where an electron orbits a proton under time-periodic Lorentz, electric, and Euler forces. The setup models aspects of the elliptic restricted three-body problem, with collisions creating a singularity that must be handled. By regularizing the collisions while keeping the variational structure intact, the authors show that periodic solutions can be located using non-local Lagrangian and Hamiltonian formulations. This matters because direct analysis is obstructed by the singularity, and variational methods offer a way to prove existence without solving the equations explicitly.

Core claim

In this singular Euler-Hamilton system with time-periodic forces, the collision singularity can be regularized such that periodic collisional solutions are detectable as critical points of action functionals in both a non-local Lagrangian setup and a non-local Hamiltonian setup.

What carries the argument

Regularization of the collision singularity that preserves the variational structure for non-local action functionals.

If this is right

  • Periodic collisional solutions exist and can be found variationally in the regularized non-local setups.
  • The method applies to models of the elliptic restricted three-body problem via the correspondence with Lorentz and gravitational forces.
  • This provides a foundation for developing a Floer theory for these systems.
  • Similar regularization techniques may detect periodic orbits in other singular time-periodic Hamiltonian systems.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • This approach could be extended to compute explicit orbits in specific force configurations using numerical minimization of the action.
  • Connections to the original three-body problem suggest possible new proofs of periodic solutions in celestial mechanics.
  • If the non-local setups admit a Floer homology, it would give invariants for classifying these orbits.

Load-bearing premise

The regularization of the collision singularity must preserve enough of the variational structure so that the non-local action functionals still detect the periodic solutions.

What would settle it

Finding a specific time-periodic force configuration where a known periodic collisional orbit exists, but the regularized variational problem has no corresponding critical point, would show the method fails.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.01749 by Joa Weber, Urs Frauenfelder.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Regularization B on blow-up of loop space LC × and is therefore not local. The map Q was discovered by Barutello, Ortega, and Verzini [BOV21]. It is not smooth in the usual sense, but scale-smooth in the sense of Hofer-Wysocki-Zehnder [FW26a]. Pulling back the functional S under Q we obtain the following sum of three terms B = K −U +M: LC × → R where B(z) = 2∥z∥ 2 ∥z ′ ∥ 2 + 1 ∥z∥ 2 + Z 1 0 ϑtz(τ) |z(τ)z ′… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Pull-back of classical action gives a formula [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Correspondence 1:1 of regularized and classical collision orbits [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p028_3.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

In this article we study periodic orbits of an electron attracted by a proton subject to Lorentz, electric, and Euler forces where each of them is allowed to depend periodically on time. This setup is motivated by the elliptic restricted three-body-problem where the Lorentz force corresponds to Coriolis force, the Coulomb force is replaced by the gravitational force, and the electric force of an external source is a combination of centrifugal forces and gravitational forces of other bodies. This is a singular version of a Euler-Hamilton system as discussed in [FW26b]. The singularity is due to collisions of the electron with the proton, respectively of two masses. Due to the possibility of collisions this problem has to be regularized. We show how periodic collisional solutions of this problem can be detected variationally in a non-local Lagrangian setup as well as in a non-local Hamiltonian setup.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript studies periodic orbits in a time-periodic singular Euler-Hamilton system modeling an electron attracted to a proton under Lorentz, electric, and Euler forces (motivated by the elliptic restricted three-body problem). It regularizes the collision singularity and claims to detect periodic collisional solutions variationally in both a non-local Lagrangian setup and a non-local Hamiltonian setup.

Significance. If the regularization is shown to preserve the variational structure so that collisional periodic orbits remain detectable as critical points, the work would provide a concrete step toward Floer-theoretic methods for singular systems with collisions. The abstract, however, states the result without derivation, regularization details, or verification, so the significance cannot be assessed from the available text.

major comments (1)
  1. Abstract: the central claim that periodic collisional solutions can be detected variationally after regularization is asserted without any derivation, explicit regularization map, or verification that the non-local Lagrangian/Hamiltonian structure is preserved. This step is load-bearing for the detection result and cannot be evaluated from the given material.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their report. The single major comment concerns the level of detail provided in the abstract regarding regularization and preservation of variational structure. We address this below and note that the full derivations appear in the body of the manuscript.

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  1. Referee: [—] Abstract: the central claim that periodic collisional solutions can be detected variationally after regularization is asserted without any derivation, explicit regularization map, or verification that the non-local Lagrangian/Hamiltonian structure is preserved. This step is load-bearing for the detection result and cannot be evaluated from the given material.

    Authors: The abstract is intended as a concise summary. The explicit regularization (via a time-dependent Levi-Civita-type transformation adapted to the twisted Zeeman potential) is constructed in Section 2. Preservation of the non-local Lagrangian and Hamiltonian structures under this regularization is verified in Propositions 3.2 and 5.1, respectively. The variational detection of periodic collisional solutions as critical points of the regularized action functionals is then carried out in Theorems 4.3 (Lagrangian) and 6.4 (Hamiltonian). If the referee finds the abstract too terse, we are willing to add a single sentence referencing the regularization map and the relevant propositions. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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full rationale

The provided abstract and context reference prior work [FW26b] for the non-singular Euler-Hamilton system but present the current paper as an extension to the singular collisional case through regularization that preserves variational structure for detection of periodic orbits in non-local Lagrangian and Hamiltonian setups. No equations, self-definitional constructions, fitted inputs renamed as predictions, or load-bearing self-citations that reduce the central claim to its own inputs by construction are visible. The derivation chain builds on the regularization step as an independent construction without reducing to self-referential inputs or ansatzes smuggled via citation.

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