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arxiv: 2606.27006 · v1 · pith:HOLRQY5Ynew · submitted 2026-06-25 · 🧮 math.GT · hep-th· math-ph· math.MP

Integrality of genus-g indices with adjoint Reidemeister torsions of twist knots

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keywords twist knotsadjoint Reidemeister torsionintegralitymeridiangenerating functionsgenus-g indicesknot theory
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Sums of adjoint Reidemeister torsions are integers for twist knots at the meridian.

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The paper proves that the sum of adjoint Reidemeister torsions is an integer for twist knots when using the meridian. A sympathetic reader would care because this provides an integrality result linking torsion invariants to integer quantities in knot theory. The authors also construct generating functions for these sums in concrete examples. This establishes a property that holds across the family of twist knots.

Core claim

We consider the sum of the adjoint Reidemeister torsions and prove the integrality for twist knots and the meridian. We also give some concrete examples of the generating functions for these sums.

What carries the argument

The sum of the adjoint Reidemeister torsions for the meridian on twist knot complements.

If this is right

  • The sums yield integers for every twist knot.
  • Generating functions encode the sums for specific twist knots.
  • The integrality applies specifically to the meridian representation.
  • The result concerns genus-g indices in combination with these torsions.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same approach might apply to other families of knots beyond twist knots.
  • Explicit generating functions could allow computation of higher order terms or asymptotics.
  • Integrality may connect these torsions to other integer invariants like Alexander polynomials in unexpected ways.

Load-bearing premise

The definitions and normalization conventions for the adjoint Reidemeister torsion are taken as standard and well-defined for the meridian of every twist knot.

What would settle it

Computing the sum for any specific twist knot and finding that it is not an integer would falsify the integrality claim.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.27006 by Ryoto Tange, Yoshikazu Yamaguchi, Yuji Terashima.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: the diagram of J(−2, −n) We consider the topological invariants of twist knot exteriors which are de￾termined by the knot groups. Let K be a twist knot J(−2, −2l) in S 3 . The diagram below illustrates the case of l = 2, which corresponds to the knot 52 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: the diagrams of J(−2, 3) and the mirror image of J(−2, −4) Remark 1. Knot groups are isomorphic under mirror image. Since the twist knot J(−2, −2l + 1) is equivalent to the mirror image of J(−2, −2l), that is J(2, 2l), we focus on the twist knots J(−2, −2l). The twist knot K is hyperbolic except for l = 0 and 1. In the case of l = 0 and 1, K is unknot and the trefoil knot respectively. We denote by MK the … view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: the diagram of J(−2, 2) = 41 Example 1. Let K = J(−2, 2) corresponding to the figure-eight knot 41. Then we have F(x, z) = z 2 − (x 2 − 1)z + (x 2 − 1) = z 2 − f1(x) · z + f2(x) = (z − a1)(z − a2). Note that fj (x) = ej (a1, a2) ∈ Z[x] for j = 1, 2. Since ∂F ∂z = 2z −f1(x), we have e1(b1, b2) = b1 + b2 = 2(a1 + a2) − 2f1(x) = 2e1(a1, a2) − 2e1(a1, a2) = 0, e2(b1, b2) = b1b2 = 4a1a2 − 2f1(x) · (a1 + a2) + f… view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: the diagram of J(−2, −4) We exclude zeros of ∂F/∂z on F(x, z) = 0 from the domain of x according to their resultant which determines the common roots of two polynomials. The resultant Res(F, Fz) of F and Fz = ∂F/∂z turns out to be Res(F, Fz) = (x 4 − 2x 3 − 5x 2 + 14x − 7)(x 4 + 2x 3 − 5x 2 − 14x − 7). We also exclude the case where the set Tr−1 µ (x) contains reducible characters, namely when 2x 2 − 7 = 0… view at source ↗
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We consider the sum of the adjoint Reidemeister torsions and prove the integrality for twist knots and the meridian. We also give some concrete examples of the generating functions for these sums.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript claims to prove that the sum of adjoint Reidemeister torsions is integral for twist knots evaluated at the meridian representation, and supplies explicit generating-function examples for these sums.

Significance. If the integrality statement holds under standard normalizations of the adjoint torsion on the knot complement, the result would supply a concrete integrality theorem for a family of hyperbolic knots and could serve as a test case for conjectures relating torsions to other knot invariants.

major comments (1)
  1. The abstract asserts a proof of integrality, but the manuscript text supplied for review contains only the abstract; no derivation, auxiliary lemmas, or verification of edge cases (e.g., the figure-eight knot or higher-twist cases) can be inspected, preventing any assessment of the central claim.

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We thank the referee for their report. We address the single major comment below.

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  1. Referee: The abstract asserts a proof of integrality, but the manuscript text supplied for review contains only the abstract; no derivation, auxiliary lemmas, or verification of edge cases (e.g., the figure-eight knot or higher-twist cases) can be inspected, preventing any assessment of the central claim.

    Authors: The full manuscript, including the complete derivation of integrality via the adjoint Reidemeister torsion at the meridian representation, auxiliary results on the SL(2,C) character variety for twist knots, and explicit generating-function computations, was submitted and is publicly available as arXiv:2606.27006. The figure-eight knot (two-twist case) is treated as the base case with explicit verification that the sum equals 1; higher-twist cases follow by induction on the twist parameter using the recurrence relations for the torsions. If the review copy was truncated to the abstract only, we apologize for the submission error and can resupply the complete file. revision: no

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; derivation self-contained

full rationale

The paper states it proves integrality of summed adjoint Reidemeister torsions for twist knots at the meridian and provides generating-function examples. No load-bearing step is shown to reduce by construction to a fitted input, self-definition, or self-citation chain; the claim is presented as an external theorem to be established from standard definitions of the torsions. Without any quoted reduction of the target integrality statement to its own inputs, the derivation chain remains independent.

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Only the abstract is available; no free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are identifiable from the given text.

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