SagaQA: A Multi-hop Reasoning Benchmark for Long-form Narrative Understanding in TV Series
Pith reviewed 2026-06-28 10:13 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Hybrid planners generate higher-quality reasoning plans than parallel or sequential ones for multi-hop questions spanning full TV series.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
SagaQA is a long-form video benchmark for multi-hop reasoning over full-length TV series that necessitates long-range reasoning hops to connect information across completely different episodes. When evaluating planning strategies categorized into Parallel, Sequential, and Hybrid planners, hybrid planners consistently produce higher-quality plans and exhibit stronger capabilities for complex, high-level narrative understanding in TV shows.
What carries the argument
The SagaQA dataset, which demands long-range hops across episodes, together with the three planner classes (Parallel, Sequential, Hybrid) that generate reasoning plans for the questions.
If this is right
- Hybrid planners produce higher-quality plans than parallel or sequential planners on SagaQA tasks.
- Hybrid planners exhibit stronger capabilities for complex high-level narrative understanding in TV shows.
- Agentic methods using hybrid planning improve handling of extended multimodal narratives.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Hybrid planning may also help on other long-context tasks such as book or podcast reasoning where information is spread over distant sections.
- Benchmark designers could add controls that explicitly block single-episode shortcuts to strengthen claims about required hop distance.
- Models trained with hybrid planners might generalize better to full-season plot tracking than those using only sequential or parallel strategies.
Load-bearing premise
The questions in SagaQA genuinely require long-range multi-hop reasoning across different episodes and cannot be solved with local information from single episodes or dataset shortcuts.
What would settle it
Showing that a large fraction of SagaQA questions can be answered correctly using only information contained in one episode or a short contiguous segment.
Figures
read the original abstract
We introduce SagaQA, a long-form video benchmark for multi-hop reasoning over full-length TV series. Existing video reasoning benchmarks often emphasize local understanding of adjacent frames or clips. SagaQA addresses this gap by requiring high-level comprehension of extended multimodal narratives in entire TV shows. A distinguishing feature of SagaQA is the granularity of its reasoning steps. Our dataset necessitates long-range reasoning hops to connect information across completely different episodes. This requires models to reason over entire events and actions, demanding a deep understanding of the show's narration and progression at a multimodal level. Motivated by recent progress in agentic methods, we further study how different planning strategies handle such complex reasoning. We categorize these approaches into three classes-Parallel, Sequential, and Hybrid planners-and evaluate their ability to generate coherent and complete reasoning plans. Our results on SagaQA suggest that hybrid planners consistently produce higher-quality plans and exhibit stronger capabilities for complex, high-level narrative understanding in TV shows.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces SagaQA, a benchmark dataset for multi-hop reasoning over full-length TV series that requires connecting information across different episodes. It categorizes planning approaches for agentic reasoning into Parallel, Sequential, and Hybrid planners, evaluates their performance on SagaQA, and concludes that hybrid planners generate higher-quality plans and demonstrate stronger capabilities for complex narrative understanding.
Significance. If the benchmark questions are shown to require genuine long-range cross-episode reasoning without shortcuts, SagaQA could fill an important gap in existing video reasoning benchmarks that focus on local clips. The empirical comparison of planner types could provide useful guidance for designing agents for long-form multimodal narratives, though the current lack of validation details limits immediate impact.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that SagaQA 'necessitates long-range reasoning hops to connect information across completely different episodes' and requires 'deep understanding of the show's narration' is presented without any described validation (e.g., human performance with single-episode context, adversarial filtering, or ablation on episode span). This assumption is load-bearing for interpreting the hybrid-planner superiority result.
- [Abstract / Results] The manuscript provides no quantitative results, model implementation details, or dataset statistics in the abstract, and the full text does not appear to include human baselines or artifact checks that would confirm the questions cannot be solved locally. This undermines the ability to assess whether performance differences reflect reasoning depth.
minor comments (1)
- The categorization of planners into three classes is introduced without clear definitions or pseudocode for each strategy, making it difficult to reproduce the experimental setup.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive feedback on SagaQA. The comments correctly identify areas where additional validation and presentation details would strengthen the manuscript. We address each major comment below and commit to revisions that directly respond to the concerns raised.
read point-by-point responses
-
Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that SagaQA 'necessitates long-range reasoning hops to connect information across completely different episodes' and requires 'deep understanding of the show's narration' is presented without any described validation (e.g., human performance with single-episode context, adversarial filtering, or ablation on episode span). This assumption is load-bearing for interpreting the hybrid-planner superiority result.
Authors: We agree that the abstract states the long-range requirement without accompanying validation metrics. The full manuscript describes the annotation protocol in which human annotators were explicitly instructed to generate questions whose answers require information spanning multiple distinct episodes, with a verification step to exclude questions solvable from any single episode. However, we did not report quantitative human performance under single-episode context or ablation studies on episode span. We will add a new validation subsection that includes (1) human accuracy when restricted to single-episode context, (2) results after adversarial filtering for local shortcuts, and (3) an ablation varying the number of episodes provided. These additions will directly support the central claim and allow readers to assess the hybrid-planner results in context. revision: yes
-
Referee: [Abstract / Results] The manuscript provides no quantitative results, model implementation details, or dataset statistics in the abstract, and the full text does not appear to include human baselines or artifact checks that would confirm the questions cannot be solved locally. This undermines the ability to assess whether performance differences reflect reasoning depth.
Authors: We acknowledge that the abstract currently contains no numbers and that the submitted version lacks explicit human baselines or local-solvability checks. We will revise the abstract to report key dataset statistics (number of questions, average reasoning hops, distribution of episode spans) together with the main performance deltas among planner types. In parallel, the new validation subsection mentioned above will incorporate human baselines under both full-series and single-episode conditions, plus artifact checks (e.g., model performance when given only local context). These changes will make it possible to evaluate whether observed differences indeed reflect long-range reasoning capabilities. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; benchmark introduction with empirical evaluation only.
full rationale
The paper introduces SagaQA as a new benchmark and reports empirical comparisons of planner types (Parallel, Sequential, Hybrid) on it. No equations, derivations, fitted parameters, or self-citation chains appear in the provided text. Claims rest on experimental results rather than any reduction of outputs to inputs by construction. The central assumption about question difficulty is a validity concern, not a circularity issue per the defined patterns.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
Reference graph
Works this paper leans on
-
[1]
Video-MME: The First-Ever Comprehensive Evaluation Benchmark of Multi-modal LLMs in Video Analysis
Video-MME: The first-ever comprehensive evaluation benchmark of multi-modal LLMs in video analysis.CoRR, abs/2405.21075. Songhao Han, Wei Huang, Hairong Shi, Le Zhuo, Xiu Su, Shifeng Zhang, Xu Zhou, Xiaojuan Qi, Yue Liao, and Si Liu. 2025. Videoespresso: A large-scale chain- of-thought dataset for fine-grained video reasoning via core frame selection. InI...
work page internal anchor Pith review Pith/arXiv arXiv 2025
-
[2]
Video-browser: Towards agentic open-web video browsing. Chengwen Liu, Xiaomin Yu, Zhuoyue Chang, Zhe Huang, Shuo Zhang, Heng Lian, Kunyi Wang, Rui Xu, Sen Hu, Jianheng Hou, Hao Peng, Chengwei Qin, Xiaobin Hu, Hong Peng, Ronghao Chen, and Huacan Wang. 2026. Watching, reasoning, and searching: A video deep research benchmark on open web for agentic video re...
work page internal anchor Pith review Pith/arXiv arXiv 2026
-
[3]
InternVL3.5: Advancing Open-Source Multimodal Models in Versatility, Reasoning, and Efficiency
Internvl3.5: Advancing open-source multi- modal models in versatility, reasoning, and efficiency. CoRR, abs/2508.18265. Xiaohan Wang, Yuhui Zhang, Orr Zohar, and Serena Yeung-Levy. 2024b. VideoAgent: Long-form video understanding with large language model as agent. InComputer Vision - ECCV 2024 - 18th European Conference, Milan, Italy, September 29-Octobe...
work page internal anchor Pith review Pith/arXiv arXiv 2024
-
[4]
E-VRAG: enhancing long video understand- ing with resource-efficient retrieval augmented gen- eration.CoRR, abs/2508.01546. Jingkang Yang, Shuai Liu, Hongming Guo, Yuhao Dong, Xiamengwei Zhang, Sicheng Zhang, Pengyun Wang, Zitang Zhou, Binzhu Xie, Ziyue Wang, Bei Ouyang, Zhengyu Lin, Marco Cominelli, Zhon- gang Cai, Bo Li, Yuanhan Zhang, Peiyuan Zhang, Fa...
-
[5]
Tree of thoughts: Deliberate problem solving with large language models. InAdvances in Neural Information Processing Systems 36: Annual Confer- ence on Neural Information Processing Systems 2023, NeurIPS 2023, New Orleans, LA, USA, December 10 - 16, 2023. Jinhui Ye, Zihan Wang, Haosen Sun, Keshigeyan Chan- drasegaran, Zane Durante, Cristóbal Eyzaguirre, Y...
-
[6]
arXiv preprint arXiv:2506.10821 (2025) 11, 22, 24
OpenReview.net. Huaying Yuan, Zheng Liu, Junjie Zhou, Hongjin Qian, Ji-Rong Wen, and Zhicheng Dou. 2025. Videodeep- research: Long video understanding with agentic tool using.CoRR, abs/2506.10821. Congzhi Zhang, Zhibin Wang, Yinchao Ma, Ji- awei Peng, Yihan Wang, Qiang Zhou, Jun Song, and Bo Zheng. 2025a. Rewatch-r1: Boosting complex video reasoning in la...
-
[7]
arXiv preprint arXiv:2504.04471 , year=
VideoAgent2: Enhancing the LLM-based agent system for long-form video understanding by uncertainty-aware CoT.CoRR, abs/2504.04471. Junjie Zhou, Yan Shu, Bo Zhao, Boya Wu, Shitao Xiao, Xi Yang, Yongping Xiong, Bo Zhang, Tiejun Huang, and Zheng Liu. 2024. MLVU: A comprehensive benchmark for multi-task long video understanding. CoRR, abs/2406.04264. A SAGAQA...
-
[8]
lead to danger for her children, (Hop 5) and what was her decision about the business, given her past with an alcoholic father and the observable proof of the incident? Episodes to Answer E ∗: 9 th, 20th, February and 4th March 2009 AnswerA: (Hop 1) Carly, initially excited about her Mid- night Sun vodka venture with Craig, (Hop
2009
-
[9]
(Hop 3) Her children, Parker and Liberty, mistook these for soda, drank them, and became drunk
found herself in a dangerous situation when Craig brought unlabeled product sam- ples to her home. (Hop 3) Her children, Parker and Liberty, mistook these for soda, drank them, and became drunk. (Hop 4) This led to them ditching school and leaving a pizza in the oven, causing a fire and leaving her kitchen with blackened appliances and counters. (Hop 5) U...
2009
-
[10]
Multimodal Multi-Episode Multi-Hop Question around character <CHARAC- TER> involving multiple visual elements or actions (Do not provide the answer within the question, Keep your question clear and simple):
-
[11]
Compact Question (Write the same ques- tion in about 30 words):
-
[12]
Justification why the question is Multi- Hop. For each hop, explain how it relates to the previous hops and which reasoning type is involved (Bridge Entities (Com- positional), Comparison & Intersection, Causal & Counterfactual, Temporal Rea- soning, Multi-Step Quantitative Reason- ing): (a) First Hop: (b) Second Hop (Justify how it relies on previous hop...
-
[13]
Justification why the question is Multi- modal
-
[14]
Justification why the question is Multi- Episode:
-
[15]
Example 6 January 2003, ...:
List of Episode involved (separated by comma). Example 6 January 2003, ...:
2003
-
[16]
Answer to the above question in 200 words maximum:
-
[17]
List of Characters involved in the ques- tion (separated by comma): B.1.3 Example Output
-
[18]
Midnight Sun
Multimodal Multi-Episode Multi-Hop Question: Considering Carly’s initial excitement about the "Midnight Sun" vodka venture with Craig, how did the visual presence of the product samples at her home lead to a dangerous situation for her children, and what was her subse- quent emotional realization and decision regarding the business, particularly in light ...
-
[19]
Midnight Sun
Compact Question: How did "Midnight Sun" vodka samples at Carly’s home lead to danger for her children, and what was her decision about the business, given her past with an alcoholic father and the visual evidence of the incident?
-
[20]
Mid- night Sun
Justification why the question is Multi- Hop: (a) First Hop (Bridge Entities): Identify Carly’s involvement in the "Mid- night Sun" vodka business with Craig. This establishes the core en- tity and her initial engagement. (b) Second Hop (Causal & Counterfac- tual): Connect the vodka samples (a specific product of the business) be- ing present at her home ...
-
[21]
visual presence of the product samples
Justification why the question is Multi- modal: The question explicitly refers to "visual presence of the product samples" (the vodka cans/bottles) and "blackened kitchen appliances and counters" as ev- idence of the incident and its impact on Carly. The act of "drinking" is also an action that would be visually depicted
-
[22]
Mid- night Sun
Justification why the question is Multi- Episode: The events described span mul- tiple episodes: the inception of the "Mid- night Sun" vodka business (09 February), the children consuming the samples and Carly’s initial realization (20 February), and the subsequent fire and Carly’s re- newed emotional distress upon seeing the damaged kitchen (04 March)
-
[23]
List of Episode involved: 09 February 2009, 20 February 2009, 04 March 2009
2009
-
[24]
Midnight Sun
Answer to the above question in 200 words maximum: Carly, initially excited about her "Midnight Sun" vodka venture with Craig, found herself in a dangerous situation when Craig brought unlabeled product samples to her home. Her chil- dren, Parker and Liberty, mistook these for soda, drank them, and became drunk. This led to them ditching school and leav- ...
-
[25]
The prompt is given to Qwen3-30B- thinking
List of Characters involved in the ques- tion: Carly Tenney, Craig Montgomery, Parker Snyder, Liberty Snyder, Johnny Donovan, Jack Snyder, Janet Snyder B.2 Multi-Hop Filtering We provide the prompt below to filter our generated QA pairs, keeping only the questions that are truly multi-hop. The prompt is given to Qwen3-30B- thinking. • <QUESTION> is the qu...
-
[26]
A question is multi-hop if it requires rea- soning across at least two pieces of infor- mation to form a complete answer
-
[27]
(b) The Hops can be part of the same narrative You can compare the pros and cons and pro- vide your final justification and answer
Requirements (a) Inference required: Answers cannot be copied verbatim; they demand logical connection. (b) The Hops can be part of the same narrative You can compare the pros and cons and pro- vide your final justification and answer. Question: <QUESTION> B.3 Video Planners Prompts We provide the prompts below for the video plan- ners we tested on SAGAQA...
-
[28]
Order the keywords from the easiest to match to a unique scene or video moment to the least easy to match: Ordered Keywords List:
b)Keywords Ordering Given the list of keywords we previously ex- tracted, we can reorganize them by difficulty. Order the keywords from the easiest to match to a unique scene or video moment to the least easy to match: Ordered Keywords List:
-
[29]
Group the keywords together
c)Keywords Grouping We group the keywords that are related to- gether. Group the keywords together. Do not miss any keyword. Grouped keywords: ** Group 1: ... **
-
[30]
This title is later used as a query to the Vide- oRAG
d)Subquestion Generation for each Group We generate a title for each group of keywords. This title is later used as a query to the Vide- oRAG. Propose a title for each group in a few words. Always include the group keywords into the title. Always refer to the name of the characters in your title. Group List: ** Group 1 Title: ... ** ** Group 2 Title: ... ...
-
[32]
All queries should target a disctinct in- formation (non-overlapping)
-
[33]
Do not over decompose the queries in too specific
Regroup similar queries together. Do not over decompose the queries in too specific
-
[34]
Queries should be very short and clear
-
[35]
Rank your queries from easier to harder Output Format Do not include answers, summaries, or explanations — only the planned queries. Your output must be in the same format as in the examples below Example: Question: What visual actions directly resulted in the definitive exposure of Meg’s deception about taking her medication, and who was the primary witn...
-
[36]
I need to break down the last query into subqueries as the last query is too com- plex)
BREAK DOWN the last query (e.g. I need to break down the last query into subqueries as the last query is too com- plex)
-
[37]
the answer to the last query is satisfying and we can move on to the next query or we decide to move on after too many un- successful attempts to answer the last query)
MOVE_ON to the next query (e.g. the answer to the last query is satisfying and we can move on to the next query or we decide to move on after too many un- successful attempts to answer the last query). Justify which action you want to perform. Given your action, what is the next query. Produce the next query only. Querying Rules
-
[38]
Altogether, the queries should eventually help you to build your answer to Query 1
-
[39]
Do not make up any new informa- tion not already present within the ques- tion
A query is always grounded into the ques- tion. Do not make up any new informa- tion not already present within the ques- tion
-
[40]
The Queries should be very short and clear
-
[41]
Answer in the following way: Justification:
Multiple BREAK DOWNS can be per- formed as long as they are justified. Answer in the following way: Justification: ... Action performed: ... Query i: ... B.3.4 Hybrid Planner The hybrid planner is a combination of both the parallel and sequential planners. We leverage the prompts of both methods in the implementation of the hybrid approach. At any given s...
1924
discussion (0)
Sign in with ORCID, Apple, or X to comment. Anyone can read and Pith papers without signing in.