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Coordinated planning of four distinct high-level methods improves pass@4 in code generation over independent sampling.
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load-bearing objection CPPO's planner for distinct strategy tuples is a clean way to target redundancy in pass@K, but the gains rest on an untested assumption that the tuples actually differ and the abstract gives too little experimental detail to judge. the 2 major comments →
Cast a Wider Net: Coordinated Pass@K Policy Optimization for Code Reasoning
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Core claim
CPPO turns pass@K generation into joint exploration over strategies: a planner emits a tuple of K=4 alternative high-level methods, a shared solver attempts one solution per method, and the joint policy receives a multiplicative planner reward R_plan = J_ψ · R_out that credits only valid strategy tuples leading to verifier-confirmed pass@K success. The resulting policy improves pass@4 over direct sampling, planning baselines, planner-only SFT, and pass@K-oriented RL under identical K=4 solver-attempt budgets, with statistically significant gains on six of nine model-benchmark cells.
What carries the argument
The coordinated planner that outputs a tuple of K alternative high-level methods, trained with multiplicative planner reward to encourage coverage of distinct solution strategies.
Load-bearing premise
The planner can emit a tuple of K=4 alternative high-level methods that are sufficiently distinct to cover different solution strategies.
What would settle it
Run the planner on held-out problems and count how often the K emitted methods are semantically or structurally distinct; if diversity stays low yet pass@4 still rises, the coordination mechanism would be falsified.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes Coordinated Pass@K Policy Optimization (CPPO) for code generation. A planner emits a tuple of K=4 alternative high-level methods; a shared solver produces one implementation per method. The joint policy is trained via the multiplicative reward R_plan = J_ψ · R_out, which credits only tuples that yield verifier-confirmed pass@K success. The central claim is that this yields higher pass@4 than direct sampling, planning baselines, planner-only SFT, and PKPO under identical K=4 budgets, with statistically significant gains (paired bootstrap p<0.05) on six of nine model-benchmark cells and a largest gain of +0.16 (0.588→0.748) on Qwen3.5-9B LiveCodeBench-v6.
Significance. If the gains are attributable to coordinated exploration of distinct algorithmic strategies rather than other factors, the method offers a concrete way to reduce redundant rollouts when allocating fixed test-time compute for code reasoning, which is relevant for competitive-programming settings where multiple solution strategies exist.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract and §3] Abstract and §3 (method): The reported pass@4 gains over PKPO and direct sampling rest on the assumption that the planner emits K=4 sufficiently distinct high-level methods. The reward R_plan = J_ψ · R_out contains no explicit diversity term or regularization, and the manuscript provides no diversity metrics, strategy-similarity ablations, or qualitative analysis of emitted tuples. Without such evidence it is unclear whether the joint policy differs meaningfully from independent sampling under the same budget.
- [Experiments] Experiments section (presumably §4–5): The abstract states specific numerical gains and paired-bootstrap p<0.05, yet supplies no information on the number of independent runs, exact baseline implementations (including PKPO), or train/test splits. These details are required to evaluate the reliability of the statistical claims and the reproducibility of the largest reported improvement (+0.16).
minor comments (1)
- [Abstract] Notation for J_ψ and the precise definition of the planner output tuple could be introduced earlier to improve readability for readers outside RL-for-code.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive feedback. Below we respond point-by-point to the major comments, clarifying the design rationale where possible and indicating revisions that will be made to address gaps in evidence and reproducibility.
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Referee: [Abstract and §3] Abstract and §3 (method): The reported pass@4 gains over PKPO and direct sampling rest on the assumption that the planner emits K=4 sufficiently distinct high-level methods. The reward R_plan = J_ψ · R_out contains no explicit diversity term or regularization, and the manuscript provides no diversity metrics, strategy-similarity ablations, or qualitative analysis of emitted tuples. Without such evidence it is unclear whether the joint policy differs meaningfully from independent sampling under the same budget.
Authors: The joint policy is structured so that the planner must emit a tuple of K=4 methods whose collective coverage yields verifier success under the multiplicative reward; this is distinct from independent sampling from a single distribution. Nevertheless, we agree that the absence of diversity metrics, similarity ablations, or qualitative tuple examples leaves the degree of coordination unverified. We will add these analyses (pairwise strategy similarity, entropy over method types, and example tuples) to §3 and the appendix in the revision. revision: yes
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Referee: [Experiments] Experiments section (presumably §4–5): The abstract states specific numerical gains and paired-bootstrap p<0.05, yet supplies no information on the number of independent runs, exact baseline implementations (including PKPO), or train/test splits. These details are required to evaluate the reliability of the statistical claims and the reproducibility of the largest reported improvement (+0.16).
Authors: We acknowledge that these implementation and statistical details were omitted. In the revised manuscript we will expand the experimental section with the number of independent runs performed, the precise re-implementation of PKPO and other baselines under the K=4 budget, the exact train/test splits for each benchmark, and the bootstrap procedure used for the reported p-values. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: empirical RL procedure with external benchmarks
full rationale
The paper defines CPPO as a joint policy optimization method using a multiplicative reward R_plan = J_ψ · R_out and reports pass@4 gains from direct experiments on APPS, CodeContests, and LiveCodeBench-v6 against multiple baselines under matched K=4 budgets. No equations, predictions, or uniqueness claims reduce the reported improvements to quantities defined by the method's own fitted parameters or self-citations; the evaluation relies on verifier-confirmed success rates measured independently of the training objective. The load-bearing assumption about strategy diversity is an empirical hypothesis tested via outcomes rather than a definitional tautology.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (1)
- K
axioms (1)
- domain assumption Distinct high-level methods produced by the planner lead to non-redundant solution attempts
invented entities (1)
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Coordinated planner-solver joint policy
no independent evidence
read the original abstract
Repeated sampling with a verifier is the standard way to allocate test-time compute for code generation, with pass@$K$ as the canonical metric. Yet the standard policy class draws $K$ independent samples from a single answer distribution, so attempts often collapse onto near-duplicate reasoning paths and waste the budget on redundant rollouts. This failure is costly in competitive programming, where many problems admit multiple distinct algorithmic strategies and pass@$K$ requires only one correct attempt. We propose Coordinated Pass@$K$ Policy Optimization (CPPO), which turns pass@$K$ generation into joint exploration over strategies: a planner emits a tuple of $K{=}4$ alternative high-level methods, and a shared solver attempts one solution per method. CPPO trains this joint policy with a multiplicative planner reward, $R_{\mathrm{plan}} = J_\psi \cdot R_{\mathrm{out}}$, assigning credit only to valid strategy tuples that lead to verifier-confirmed pass@$K$ success. Across APPS, CodeContests, and LiveCodeBench-v6, CPPO improves pass@$4$ over direct sampling, planning baselines, planner-only SFT, and pass@$K$-oriented RL under the same $K{=}4$ solver-attempt budget, with statistically significant gains on six of nine model--benchmark cells. The largest single gain is $+0.16$ on Qwen3.5-9B LiveCodeBench-v6 over the strongest baseline, PKPO ($0.588 \rightarrow 0.748$; paired bootstrap, $p < 0.05$).
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The same base-model solver is given a prompt that asks it to first write a solution plan and then write the code
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For each problem we sample K full solution attempts under that prompt
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Each attempt passes through the same code extraction, sandboxed execution, and verifier pipeline
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This comparison isolates the effect of adding a planning prompt before code generation
Pass@K is the fraction of problems on which at least one of theKattempts passes the tests. This comparison isolates the effect of adding a planning prompt before code generation. PlanSearch (Wang et al., 2024) as a planning baseline.We follow the released implementation, using eight candidate plans per problem and the same solver/verifier pipeline as the ...
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The base model first generates multiple candi- date plans per problem; we use8candidates
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The candidates are selected and organized into plans usable for solving
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The same frozen base-model solver then gener- ates code conditioned on each selected plan
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This comparison isolates inference-time multi-plan search without planner training
Each problem is evaluated under a budget of K solver attempts, with the same verifier and pass@Kdefinition as above. This comparison isolates inference-time multi-plan search without planner training. PKPO (Walder and Karkhanis, 2025) as a pass@K RL baseline.PKPO transforms the per- sample reward vector r∈ {0,1} n over n≥k samples of the same problem into...
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