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The uncertainty relation ΔrΔk ≥ 5/2 holds with the same form for classical light beams, coherent quantum beams, and single photons.

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load-bearing objection The paper derives the same ΔrΔk ≥ 5/2 bound in classical beams, coherent states, and single photons by applying identical variance integrals in all three cases. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2605.28906 v1 pith:4WCFR6GK submitted 2026-05-27 quant-ph

Uncertainty relations in classical and quantum theories of electromagnetism

Iwo Bialynicki-Birula , Zofia Bialynicka-Birula This is my paper
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keywords uncertainty relationselectromagnetismlight beamscoherent statessingle photonsposition variancewavevector variance
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The paper derives sharp uncertainty relations that limit the product of variances in position space and wavevector space. These relations take the identical form ΔrΔk ≥ 5/2 whether the electromagnetic field is described classically, as a quantum coherent state, or as an individual photon. The derivations use the same mathematical definitions for the variances in each of the three pictures. A sympathetic reader would care because the bound reveals a common restriction on how localized light can be that survives the transition from classical waves to quantum particles.

Core claim

Sharp uncertainty relations restricting the values of variances in the position space and in the momentum (wavevector) space are derived. They have the same form ΔrΔk ≥ 5/2 in the classical theory of light beams, in the quantum theory of coherent light beams, and in the quantum theory of individual photons.

What carries the argument

Variances of position and wavevector distributions computed from identical mathematical expressions in the classical wave picture, the coherent-state quantum picture, and the single-photon picture.

Load-bearing premise

The variances in position and wavevector are defined and computed using identical mathematical expressions in the classical wave picture, the coherent-state quantum picture, and the single-photon picture.

What would settle it

A calculation or measurement of a light beam or photon state yielding a position-wavevector variance product below 5/2 would disprove the claimed bound.

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If this is right

  • The minimal product of the variances is 5/2 and is achieved in all three theories.
  • No light beam or photon can be localized more tightly than the bound permits.
  • The uncertainty limit is independent of whether the description treats light as classical waves or quantum excitations.
  • Coherent states and single-photon states obey exactly the same restriction derived for classical beams.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The pattern of identical variance definitions could be tested in analogous wave problems such as acoustic or matter waves.
  • Focused laser experiments that measure both spatial spread and angular spread could directly check whether the product saturates at 5/2.
  • The same construction might generate uncertainty bounds for other pairs of conjugate variables in electromagnetic theory.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript asserts derivations of sharp uncertainty relations restricting variances in position and wavevector spaces, claiming that the bound takes the identical form Δr Δk ≥ 5/2 in the classical theory of light beams, the quantum theory of coherent light beams, and the quantum theory of individual photons.

Significance. If the result holds with variances defined and computed via literally identical expressions in all three regimes, it would provide a unified treatment of position-momentum uncertainty across classical and quantum electromagnetism, offering a concrete bridge between wave and photon pictures.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the claim that the bound Δr Δk ≥ 5/2 is obtained from the same algebra in the single-photon case requires that the position variance uses the identical integral or expectation-value formula as in the classical/coherent cases, without mode expansion, projection, or relativistic corrections that would change the numerical prefactor; no such explicit definition or derivation is supplied.
  2. [Abstract] The weakest assumption (identical mathematical expressions for Δr and Δk across regimes) is load-bearing for the shared bound; without the explicit formulas, it cannot be verified whether the single-photon treatment employs the same operator or integral as the classical wave picture.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the detailed comments on the abstract. The manuscript derives the shared bound using identical variance definitions across regimes, but we agree the abstract should make the common expressions explicit to facilitate verification.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the claim that the bound Δr Δk ≥ 5/2 is obtained from the same algebra in the single-photon case requires that the position variance uses the identical integral or expectation-value formula as in the classical/coherent cases, without mode expansion, projection, or relativistic corrections that would change the numerical prefactor; no such explicit definition or derivation is supplied.

    Authors: The body of the manuscript supplies the derivations, employing the same integral expressions for the position and wavevector variances in the single-photon case as in the classical and coherent cases, without introducing mode expansions or relativistic corrections that alter the prefactor. To address the concern that this is not evident from the abstract alone, we will revise the abstract to state the common definitions explicitly. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Abstract] The weakest assumption (identical mathematical expressions for Δr and Δk across regimes) is load-bearing for the shared bound; without the explicit formulas, it cannot be verified whether the single-photon treatment employs the same operator or integral as the classical wave picture.

    Authors: We agree that explicit formulas are required to confirm the identical expressions. The manuscript uses the same integral definitions for Δr and Δk in all regimes, as shown in the derivations. We will revise the abstract to include or directly reference these formulas so the shared algebra is immediately verifiable. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity; identical variance definitions applied uniformly across regimes yield the shared bound by direct computation

full rationale

The paper states that variances Δr and Δk are computed from identical mathematical expressions in the classical, coherent-state, and single-photon cases, then derives the bound ΔrΔk ≥ 5/2 from those expressions. No step reduces a prediction to a fitted parameter or self-citation chain; the shared algebraic form is an explicit modeling choice whose consequences are computed rather than presupposed. The derivation chain remains self-contained against external benchmarks such as standard Fourier uncertainty relations applied to the chosen integrals.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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Sharp uncertainty relations restricting the values of variances in the position space and in the momentum (wavevector) space are derived. They have the same form $\Delta r\Delta k\ge 5/2$ in the classical theory of light beams, in the quantum theory of coherent light beams, and in the quantum theory of individual photons.

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