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Poincaré constants for solenoidal fields in n dimensions equal those for scalars in n+2 dimensions through a shared eigenfunction of the Laplace and Stokes operators.
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load-bearing objection The paper computes explicit A- and n-dependent Poincaré constants for annuli and claims an exact match between nD Stokes constants and (n+2)D scalar Laplace constants via a shared eigenfunction relation.
Exact Poincare Constants in n-dimensional Annuli
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Core claim
We provide calculated (precise) Poincaré constants. These depend on A and the dimension n. Additionally we find a direct match of the Poincaré constants for solenoidal vector fields in R^n and the Poincaré constants for scalar functions in R^{n+2} (all with vanishing Dirichlet traces). This is based on the relation of the first eigenvalues and one eigenfunction of the (scalar) Laplace and the Stokes operator.
What carries the argument
The shared eigenfunction that equates the first eigenvalue of the scalar Laplace operator on an (n+2)-dimensional annulus with the first eigenvalue of the Stokes operator on the corresponding n-dimensional annulus.
Load-bearing premise
The lowest eigenvalue of the Stokes operator and the lowest eigenvalue of the scalar Laplacian are attained at the same function (up to the dimension shift).
What would settle it
Direct numerical computation of the smallest positive eigenvalue of the Stokes problem on a 3-dimensional annulus for a chosen A, compared against the smallest positive eigenvalue of the scalar Dirichlet Laplacian on the corresponding 5-dimensional annulus.
If this is right
- The constants are available in closed form or by solving a one-dimensional ODE problem for every fixed n and A.
- The eigenvalue on the annulus approaches the eigenvalue on the unit ball as A tends to zero, proved via the Green's function with Dirichlet conditions.
- The small-gap limit A to infinity yields an asymptotic description of the constant.
- Results for vector fields in any dimension can be read off from scalar results two dimensions higher, and vice versa.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The dimension-shift identity may let known scalar eigenvalue bounds on balls be transferred directly to Stokes problems on lower-dimensional annuli.
- The explicit A-dependence supplies a family of test domains for checking numerical eigenvalue solvers in both scalar and vector settings.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript computes explicit (exact) Poincaré constants, i.e., reciprocals of the first Dirichlet eigenvalues, for the scalar Laplacian on n-dimensional annular domains Ω_{(n),A} (n=2,...,N) of fixed radial width 1 and inner radius A/2. It further asserts that these constants for solenoidal vector fields (Stokes operator) in dimension n coincide exactly with the scalar constants in dimension n+2, via a shared eigenfunction relating the first eigenvalues of the Laplace and Stokes operators. The paper also analyzes the limits A→0 (via Green's function on punctured domains Ω^*_{(n),σ} converging to the unit ball) and A→∞ (small-gap limit).
Significance. If the claimed explicit formulas and the dimensional correspondence hold, the results would supply closed-form Poincaré constants for a family of annular geometries that are otherwise only accessible numerically, together with a direct link between scalar and divergence-free problems that may simplify analysis in fluid mechanics and vector calculus on annuli. The limit statements recover known ball eigenvalues and small-gap asymptotics, providing consistency checks.
minor comments (4)
- §2 (or wherever the radial ODE is solved): the explicit formula for the first eigenfunction and eigenvalue on the annulus should be stated in closed form (Bessel or power functions) rather than left as the root of a transcendental equation; this would make the 'precise' claim verifiable without numerical root-finding.
- The proof of the n ↔ n+2 correspondence (abstract and §3) relies on a shared eigenfunction between the scalar Laplacian and the Stokes operator; the precise mapping of the vector field to the scalar function (including how the divergence-free condition is preserved) needs an explicit statement or reference to an equation.
- In the A→0 analysis, the convergence of the first eigenvalue on Ω^*_{(n),σ} to that of the unit ball is asserted via the Green's function; a quantitative rate or an explicit comparison inequality would strengthen the claim.
- Notation: the non-dimensional annulus definition (inner radius A/2, outer A/2+1) is clear, but the dependence of the constant on both A and n should be summarized in a single theorem statement for quick reference.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their positive summary of our manuscript on exact Poincaré constants for n-dimensional annuli and the dimensional correspondence between the Laplace and Stokes operators. We appreciate the recommendation of minor revision and note that no specific major comments were provided in the report.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity
full rationale
The paper computes explicit Poincaré constants on annuli by solving the radial eigenvalue problems for the scalar Laplacian and the Stokes operator; the claimed dimensional match follows from an operator relation between the first eigenvalues and a shared eigenfunction, presented as a direct consequence rather than a fit or self-referential definition. No parameter is fitted to data and then relabeled as a prediction, no uniqueness theorem is imported from the authors' prior work, and no ansatz is smuggled via self-citation. The derivation chain remains self-contained against the stated boundary-value problems and the explicit radial symmetry of the domain.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption The first eigenfunction of the scalar Laplacian on the annulus coincides with an eigenfunction of the Stokes operator, yielding identical Poincaré constants after dimension shift.
read the original abstract
We study $n$-dimensional annuli for $n\,\in\,\{2,\dots,N\}$ with $N\,<\,\infty$. We choose a non-dimensional setting such that for any fixed $n $ and given number ${\cal A}>0$ the annuli ${\Omega}_{(n),\cal A}$ are defined as space between two concentrical balls with radii ${\cal A}/2$ and ${\cal A}/2 +1$ in ${ R}^{n}$. For these geometries we provide calculated (precise) Poincar\'e constants. These depend on ${\cal A}$ and the dimension $n$. Additionally we find a direct match of the Poincar\'e constants for solenoidal vector fields in ${R}^{n}$ and the Poincar\'e constants for scalar functions in ${ R}^{n+2}$ (all with vanishing Dirichlet traces). This is based on the relation of the first eigenvalues and one eigenfunction of the (scalar) Laplace and the Stokes operator. In addition we consider the limit ${\cal A}\,\to\,0$. In this context problems in domains ${\Omega}_{(n),\sigma}^{*}$ are investigated. These domains enable us to use the Green's function of the Laplacian with vanishing Dirichlet traces to show that the first eigenvalue here tends to the first eigenvalue of the corresponding problem on the open unit ball in ${ R}^{n}$. On the other hand, we take advantage of the so-called small-gap limit for ${\cal A}\to\infty$.
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