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GRRMHD simulations show TDE accretion disks from the cooling envelope model become thermally unstable and collapse within 17-46 days, causing a soft X-ray excess followed by a nearly 100-fold drop in X-ray luminosity that matches AT2021ehb.
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load-bearing objection GRRMHD runs on CEM-adapted tori produce spin-dependent thermal instability in 17-46 days plus X-ray drops matching AT2021ehb, but the torus setup fidelity is the untested step. the 1 major comments →
GRRMHD Simulations of State Transitions in Non-Jetted Tidal Disruption Events
The pith
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Core claim
The central claim is that disks initialized as magnetized tori from the near-Eddington CEM phase for a 1 solar-mass star around a 10^7 solar-mass black hole become thermally unstable within 17.1-46.5 days depending on black hole spin; this produces thermal spectra with a soft X-ray excess before collapse and a nearly two-order-of-magnitude decline in X-ray luminosity upon collapse, with blackbody radius and temperature evolution correlated to spin and spectral properties similar to the observed non-jetted TDE AT2021ehb.
What carries the argument
GRRMHD evolution of magnetized tori taken from the near-Eddington CEM phase, which tracks the onset of thermal instability and subsequent disk collapse.
Load-bearing premise
The initial magnetized tori adapted from the near-Eddington phase of the CEM accurately represent the circularized debris cloud at that stage.
What would settle it
Detection of a TDE whose X-ray light curve lacks both the predicted soft excess and the sharp luminosity drop within roughly one month after the near-Eddington phase would falsify the instability mechanism.
If this is right
- The disk reaches thermal instability on a timescale of weeks to about a month and a half that shortens with higher black hole spin.
- A soft X-ray excess appears in the thermal spectrum immediately before the disk collapses.
- X-ray luminosity drops by nearly two orders of magnitude once the disk collapses.
- The time evolution of the blackbody radius and temperature tracks the spin of the central black hole.
- The resulting spectral properties and soft X-ray luminosities reproduce those seen in the non-jetted TDE AT2021ehb.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- If the CEM initial conditions remain valid across a wider range of stellar masses and black hole spins, the same thermal collapse could explain state transitions in additional non-jetted TDEs.
- Measuring the timing of the X-ray drop relative to the disruption could provide an observational handle on black hole spin.
- The shallow density profile inherited from the CEM may be essential for delaying the onset of full Eddington accretion until months after disruption.
- Extending these runs to include magnetic jet launching could reveal why some TDEs produce jets while others, like AT2021ehb, do not.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper performs GRRMHD simulations of magnetized tori initialized from the near-Eddington phase of the cooling envelope model (CEM) for a 1 M_⊙ star disrupted by a 10^7 M_⊙ black hole. It reports that the disks become thermally unstable on timescales of 17.1–46.5 days that depend on black-hole spin, exhibit a soft X-ray excess before collapse followed by a nearly two-order-of-magnitude drop in X-ray luminosity, show spin-correlated evolution of blackbody radius and temperature, and produce spectral properties similar to the observed non-jetted TDE AT2021ehb.
Significance. If the reported instability timescales, luminosity drops, and spin correlations are robust, the work supplies a concrete GRRMHD realization of state transitions in the late, sub-Eddington phase of TDEs and offers a direct comparison point to AT2021ehb. The approach of seeding simulations from an existing long-duration CEM run is a methodological strength that connects circularization calculations to radiation-MHD evolution.
major comments (1)
- [§2] §2 (Initial conditions): The adaptation of the CEM near-Eddington density profile (ρ ∝ r^{-1}) and specific angular momentum into the GRRMHD torus is described only qualitatively; no quantitative metric (e.g., L1 or L2 difference in radial profiles before and after rescaling/smoothing, or magnetic-flux comparison) is provided to demonstrate fidelity to the parent CEM output. Because the reported thermal-instability windows (17.1–46.5 days) and subsequent spectral evolution are direct outputs of these tori, any alteration in the radial structure or magnetic flux during adaptation would render the timescales and spin correlations sensitive to numerical setup rather than the underlying radiation-MHD physics.
minor comments (1)
- [Abstract] The abstract states that the CEM supplies sub-Eddington accretion early and Eddington accretion only after several months, yet the simulations begin at the “near Eddington phase”; a brief clarification of the exact accretion-rate range at t=0 of the GRRMHD runs would improve traceability.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their positive assessment of the significance of our work and for the constructive comment on the initial conditions. We address the major comment below.
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Referee: [§2] §2 (Initial conditions): The adaptation of the CEM near-Eddington density profile (ρ ∝ r^{-1}) and specific angular momentum into the GRRMHD torus is described only qualitatively; no quantitative metric (e.g., L1 or L2 difference in radial profiles before and after rescaling/smoothing, or magnetic-flux comparison) is provided to demonstrate fidelity to the parent CEM output. Because the reported thermal-instability windows (17.1–46.5 days) and subsequent spectral evolution are direct outputs of these tori, any alteration in the radial structure or magnetic flux during adaptation would render the timescales and spin correlations sensitive to numerical setup rather than the underlying radiation-MHD physics.
Authors: We agree that a quantitative demonstration of fidelity would strengthen the manuscript. In the revised version we will add explicit metrics, including L1 and L2 norms of the differences in the radial density and specific angular momentum profiles between the parent CEM snapshot and the rescaled/smoothened GRRMHD torus, together with a direct comparison of the magnetic flux. These additions will confirm that the key structural features are preserved to within a few percent and that the reported instability timescales arise from the radiation-MHD evolution rather than from setup artifacts. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; forward simulations from stated initial conditions
full rationale
The paper performs GRRMHD simulations of magnetized tori adapted from the CEM near-Eddington phase as initial conditions. Reported outcomes (thermal instability at 17.1-46.5 days, soft X-ray excess, luminosity drop, blackbody evolution correlated with spin, similarity to AT2021ehb) are direct numerical outputs rather than algebraic reductions, fitted parameters renamed as predictions, or self-definitional loops. No equations in the abstract or described chain equate results to inputs by construction. CEM adaptation is an external modeling assumption, not a self-citation that renders the central claims tautological. The derivation chain remains self-contained against the simulation physics.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (1)
- Black hole spin parameter
axioms (1)
- domain assumption The cooling envelope model accurately describes the circularized debris at the near-Eddington phase used for initial torus setup.
read the original abstract
Circularization of the stream material into a debris cloud during tidal disruption events (TDEs) was recently demonstrated in one of the most accurate long duration TDE simulations to-date. The cooling envelope model (CEM) provides a description of the circularized debris cloud and its emission over time well beyond circularization across different disruption parameters. In the CEM, sub-Eddington accretion rates occur early in TDEs and the debris has a shallow density profile of roughly $\rho \propto r^{-1}$, with Eddington accretion only being achieved after several months. To explore the late stages of the CEM, we perform general relativistic radiation magnetohydrodynamics (GRRMHD) simulations of magnetized tori adapted from the near Eddington phase of the CEM for a $1M_\odot$ star disrupted around a $10^7 M_\odot$ black hole (BH). We find that the disk becomes thermally unstable within 17.1-46.5 days depending on the spin of the BH. Thermal spectra show a soft X-ray excess prior to collapse, with a nearly two order of magnitude decline in X-ray luminosity upon disk collapse. Furthermore, the evolution of the blackbody radius and temperature of our models are correlated with the spin of the black hole. The spectral properties and soft X-ray luminosity in our models are similar to the TDE AT2021ehb, which is a non-jetted TDE with late X-rays and a state transition after $\approx 271$ days.
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