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Overlapping concepts in language models create a cylindrical structure that accounts for steering fluctuations.
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load-bearing objection CRH offers a geometric account of steering instability by relaxing LRH orthogonality, but the load-bearing claim that difference vectors cleanly yield an identifiable axis and plane while sectors remain unidentifiable is undercut by likely concept entanglement. the 2 major comments →
The Cylindrical Representation Hypothesis for Language Model Steering
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Core claim
By relaxing LRH's orthogonality assumption while preserving linear representations, overlapping concept contributions naturally yield a sample-specific axis-orthogonal structure formalized as the Cylindrical Representation Hypothesis (CRH). In CRH, a central axis captures the main difference between concept absence and presence and drives concept generation. A surrounding normal plane controls steering sensitivity by determining how easily the axis can activate the target concept. Within this plane, only specific sensitive sectors strongly facilitate concept activation, while other sectors can suppress or delay it. The surrounding normal plane can be reliably identified from difference vecto
What carries the argument
The Cylindrical Representation Hypothesis (CRH), a model of concept representation with a central axis for presence difference and a normal plane containing sensitive sectors that control activation ease.
Load-bearing premise
The surrounding normal plane can be reliably identified from difference vectors while the sensitive sector cannot, thereby introducing intrinsic uncertainty at the sector level.
What would settle it
Finding that steering outcomes remain stable and predictable even without knowing the sensitive sector, or failing to observe the cylindrical structure in activation difference vectors across samples.
If this is right
- Steering using the identified axis direction will still vary in outcome depending on the sample's location in the normal plane.
- The reliable identification of the normal plane allows consistent axis finding, but sector uncertainty causes observed fluctuations.
- Concept activation can be facilitated or delayed based on the sector position relative to the sensitive one.
- Linear representations are preserved, but overlaps lead to this cylindrical rather than purely orthogonal form.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Steering methods might be improved by attempting to estimate or average over possible sectors in the plane.
- This cylindrical view could apply to other control techniques beyond steering in language models.
- Visualizing the normal plane for multiple samples might reveal patterns in sector locations.
- Extensions could test whether training affects the size or structure of the sensitive sectors.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper claims that relaxing the orthogonality assumption of the Linear Representation Hypothesis (LRH) while preserving linear representations leads to overlapping concept contributions that naturally produce a sample-specific cylindrical structure. This is formalized as the Cylindrical Representation Hypothesis (CRH), in which a central axis (recovered from difference vectors) captures the main difference between concept absence and presence and drives generation, a surrounding normal plane controls steering sensitivity, and only specific sensitive sectors within that plane facilitate activation while others suppress it. The normal plane is asserted to be reliably identifiable from difference vectors, but the sensitive sector is not, introducing intrinsic uncertainty that explains steering fluctuations. Experiments are reported to verify the cylindrical structure and demonstrate CRH's utility for interpreting real steering behavior, with code provided.
Significance. If the cylindrical geometry and the claimed identifiability separation hold, CRH supplies a concrete geometric account of steering instability that remains within the linear-representation paradigm and could guide more stable steering methods. The inclusion of experiments together with a public code repository is a strength that supports empirical scrutiny and reproducibility.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract / CRH formalization] Abstract and the formalization of CRH: the load-bearing assertion that 'the surrounding normal plane can be reliably identified from difference vectors' while the sensitive sector cannot must be justified against the possibility that difference vectors entangle multiple overlapping concepts. The hypothesis itself invokes overlapping contributions, yet no explicit argument or isolation mechanism is supplied showing why the recovered axis and plane remain concept-pure.
- [Experiments] Experiments section: verification of the cylindrical structure should include controls or ablations that test robustness of axis and plane recovery when difference vectors are constructed under controlled concept overlap, directly addressing whether the claimed reliable identification of the normal plane survives the regime the hypothesis assumes.
minor comments (1)
- The GitHub link is mentioned only in the abstract; a stable citation or footnote in the main text would improve traceability.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the detailed and constructive review. The comments highlight important points regarding the justification of CRH's identifiability claims and the need for additional experimental controls. We address each below and commit to revisions that strengthen the manuscript without altering its core claims.
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Referee: [Abstract / CRH formalization] Abstract and the formalization of CRH: the load-bearing assertion that 'the surrounding normal plane can be reliably identified from difference vectors' while the sensitive sector cannot must be justified against the possibility that difference vectors entangle multiple overlapping concepts. The hypothesis itself invokes overlapping contributions, yet no explicit argument or isolation mechanism is supplied showing why the recovered axis and plane remain concept-pure.
Authors: We agree that an explicit isolation argument is needed. The CRH formalization defines the axis as the principal direction of difference vectors (concept-present minus concept-absent), which isolates the dominant linear contribution even when secondary concepts overlap in the representation space. The normal plane is then the orthogonal complement, recoverable via the null space of the axis. However, the manuscript does not provide a dedicated lemma or decomposition showing why overlap does not contaminate the plane identification. We will add a short mathematical subsection deriving this from the linear superposition model, demonstrating that the axis remains the leading eigenvector and the plane is identifiable as long as the target concept has non-zero projection on the difference vector. revision: yes
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Referee: [Experiments] Experiments section: verification of the cylindrical structure should include controls or ablations that test robustness of axis and plane recovery when difference vectors are constructed under controlled concept overlap, directly addressing whether the claimed reliable identification of the normal plane survives the regime the hypothesis assumes.
Authors: This is a valid request for stronger validation. Our existing experiments demonstrate the cylindrical geometry on natural activations and steering tasks, but they do not include synthetic ablations with injected concept overlap. We will add a controlled ablation subsection that generates difference vectors under varying overlap levels (via linear combinations of known directions) and reports metrics on axis recovery accuracy and plane stability. This directly tests the identifiability claim under the overlapping regime assumed by CRH. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; CRH is a proposed formalization from relaxing LRH, not a reduction to inputs.
full rationale
The paper's central move is to relax the orthogonality assumption of the existing Linear Representation Hypothesis (LRH) while keeping linear representations, then define the Cylindrical Representation Hypothesis (CRH) as the resulting structure. No equations, parameters, or predictions are shown to be fitted to data and then renamed as outputs. No self-citations are invoked as load-bearing uniqueness theorems. The derivation is presented as a theoretical relaxation that yields a new descriptive structure, with experiments offered as verification rather than as the source of the claim. This is self-contained against external benchmarks and receives the default non-finding.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
read the original abstract
Steering is a widely used technique for controlling large language models, yet its effects are often unstable and hard to predict. Existing theoretical accounts are largely based on the Linear Representation Hypothesis (LRH). While LRH assumes that concepts can be orthogonalized for lossless control, this idealized mapping fails in real representations and cannot account for the observed unpredictability of steering. By relaxing LRH's orthogonality assumption while preserving linear representations, we show that overlapping concept contributions naturally yield a sample-specific axis-orthogonal structure. We formalize this as the Cylindrical Representation Hypothesis (CRH). In CRH, a central axis captures the main difference between concept absence and presence and drives concept generation. A surrounding normal plane controls steering sensitivity by determining how easily the axis can activate the target concept. Within this plane, only specific sensitive sectors strongly facilitate concept activation, while other sectors can suppress or delay it. While the surrounding normal plane can be reliably identified from difference vectors, the sensitive sector cannot, introducing intrinsic uncertainty at the sector level. This uncertainty provides a principled explanation for why steering outcomes often fluctuate even when using well-aligned directions. Our experiments verify the existence of the cylindrical structure and demonstrate that CRH provides a valid and practical way to interpret model steering behavior in real settings: https://github.com/mbzuai-nlp/CRH.
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11 The Cylindrical Representation Hypothesis for Language Model Steering A. Limitations While CRH offers a new geometric perspective for interpreting steering behavior, several limitations should be noted. First, CRH is proposed as a conceptual framework rather than a directly verifiable property of model representations. It assumes that sample-level diff...
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Notably, the LLM judge achieves an overall accuracy of 94%, demonstrating its reliability in classifying model outputs under steering. E. Steering Effects Discussion From the CRH perspective, commonly used linear criteria can be reinterpreted geometrically. Directional agreement effectively measures the consistency of the axis-aligned projection across tr...
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