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Quantum states over arbitrary regions in spacetime gain operational meaning through causally agnostic interferometric measurements.

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load-bearing objection The paper gives a workable interferometry route to define quantum states over spacetime without fixed causal order and shows two dynamics ensembles can share the same QSOT. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2507.19258 v4 pith:DJQSXWP5 submitted 2025-07-25 quant-ph

Probing Quantum States over Spacetime Through Interferometry

Seok Hyung Lie , Hyukjoon Kwon This is my paper
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keywords quantum states over timecausally agnostic measurementinterferometryprocess matrix formalismquantum non-Markovianityspatiotemporal correlationstime-reversal symmetry
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The paper seeks to define quantum states consistently across space and time as a step toward relativistic quantum theory. It introduces causally agnostic measurements that function independently of causal relations between regions. These measurements are always realizable via interferometry, where density operators, quantum states over time, and process matrices merge into one framework. The approach supports analysis of mixed temporal states essential for non-Markovian dynamics and uncovers new spatiotemporal correlations arising from time-reversal symmetry.

Core claim

We give an operational meaning to multipartite quantum states over arbitrary regions in spacetime through a causally agnostic measurement, a measurement scheme that can be consistently implemented independently of the causal relation between the regions. We prove that such measurements can always be implemented with interferometry, also known as the scattering circuit technique, wherein the conventional density operator, the recently developed quantum state over time (QSOT), and the process matrix formalisms smoothly merge. This framework allows for a systematic study of mixed states in the temporal setting, which turn out to be crucial for modeling quantum non-Markovianity.

What carries the argument

Causally agnostic measurement realized through interferometry (scattering circuit technique), which unifies density operators, QSOT, and process matrices for spacetime states.

Load-bearing premise

A causally agnostic measurement scheme exists and can be consistently implemented independently of the causal relation between the regions.

What would settle it

Perform the proposed interferometric measurement on a pair of regions with fixed causal order and check whether the extracted QSOT matches the predictions from the process matrix formalism for the same dynamics.

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If this is right

  • Two different ensembles of quantum dynamics can share the same QSOT and therefore remain indistinguishable by interferometry.
  • Mixed states in the temporal setting become accessible for systematic modeling of quantum non-Markovianity.
  • A new type of spatiotemporal correlation appears between quantum dynamics that originates from synchronized propagation under time-reversal symmetry.
  • Systems exhibiting this correlation can serve as reference frames to distinguish dynamics that are otherwise indistinguishable under time-reversal symmetry.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The unification may simplify calculations of temporal correlations in open quantum systems by allowing any of the three formalisms to be swapped as convenient.
  • The reference-frame application could be tested by preparing synchronized dynamics in a lab and checking whether an auxiliary system improves discrimination of time-reversed processes.
  • Limits on distinguishability via interferometry imply that additional resources beyond standard scattering circuits may be needed to resolve certain non-Markovian features.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript develops an operational definition of multipartite quantum states over arbitrary spacetime regions via causally agnostic measurements. It proves that any such measurement can be realized using interferometry (scattering circuits), under which the standard density operator, quantum state over time (QSOT), and process matrix formalisms merge. The framework is applied to mixed temporal states for non-Markovianity, shows indistinguishability of certain dynamics ensembles via interferometry, and identifies a new spatiotemporal correlation arising from synchronized propagation under time-reversal symmetry that can serve as a reference frame.

Significance. If the core construction is valid, the result offers a concrete operational route to spacetime quantum states without presupposed causal order, potentially aiding relativistic quantum information and the study of temporal correlations. The unification of formalisms and the explicit demonstration of indistinguishable ensembles plus the new correlation are strengths that could enable falsifiable predictions in interferometric setups.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and interferometry construction] Abstract and the interferometry implementation section: the central claim that causally agnostic measurements 'can always be implemented with interferometry' and that the three formalisms 'smoothly merge' requires an explicit derivation showing that the ancillary probe, controlled operations, and interference paths are defined without any background causal structure; the current presentation leaves open whether the scattering circuit construction implicitly encodes a definite order between regions.
  2. [Mixed states and non-Markovianity discussion] The section on mixed states and non-Markovianity: the assertion that mixed states are 'crucial for modeling quantum non-Markovianity' needs a concrete example or theorem linking the QSOT representation to a specific non-Markovian witness that cannot be captured by standard process matrices alone.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Introduction] Notation for the causally agnostic measurement should be introduced with a clear operational definition before the proof, to distinguish it from standard projective measurements.
  2. [Figures] Figure captions for any interferometry circuits should explicitly label the ancillary probe and the absence of assumed causal arrows.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their careful reading and constructive comments. We address the major comments point by point below, clarifying our construction and indicating planned revisions to improve explicitness and provide additional examples.

read point-by-point responses

  1. Referee: [Abstract and interferometry construction] Abstract and the interferometry implementation section: the central claim that causally agnostic measurements 'can always be implemented with interferometry' and that the three formalisms 'smoothly merge' requires an explicit derivation showing that the ancillary probe, controlled operations, and interference paths are defined without any background causal structure; the current presentation leaves open whether the scattering circuit construction implicitly encodes a definite order between regions.

    Authors: The interferometry construction in the manuscript is formulated operationally: the ancillary probe couples to the systems via controlled operations whose definitions depend only on the local regions and the interference measurement, without reference to any causal ordering between those regions. The scattering circuit is therefore defined in a causally agnostic manner, allowing the density operator, QSOT, and process matrix to merge as stated. To remove any possible ambiguity in the presentation, we will add an explicit step-by-step derivation in a new subsection of the revised manuscript that specifies the probe state, controlled unitaries, and interference paths solely in terms of the spacetime regions themselves, confirming that no background causal structure is presupposed. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Mixed states and non-Markovianity discussion] The section on mixed states and non-Markovianity: the assertion that mixed states are 'crucial for modeling quantum non-Markovianity' needs a concrete example or theorem linking the QSOT representation to a specific non-Markovian witness that cannot be captured by standard process matrices alone.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit illustration would strengthen the section. The manuscript already shows that mixed QSOTs arise naturally when temporal correlations are present and that they unify with process matrices. In the revision we will insert a concrete example of a two-time non-Markovian channel together with a short theorem demonstrating that the associated mixed QSOT yields a non-Markovianity witness (information back-flow) that is invisible to the standard process-matrix description alone. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; derivation rests on operational definition and explicit construction

full rationale

The paper defines a causally agnostic measurement operationally and proves its realization via interferometry (scattering circuit). The abstract and described framework show the merging of density operators, QSOT, and process matrices as a consequence of this construction rather than a presupposed input. No self-definitional loops, fitted parameters renamed as predictions, or load-bearing self-citations appear in the provided text. The central claim is a proof of implementability, which is independent of the target formalisms once the circuit is specified. This is the most common honest finding for papers whose core step is an explicit equivalence construction.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claims rest on standard quantum mechanics plus the domain assumption that causally agnostic measurements can be defined and realized via interferometry; no new free parameters or invented entities are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Causally agnostic measurements can be defined independently of the causal relation between regions
    Invoked in the first sentence of the abstract as the basis for the operational meaning of spacetime quantum states.

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Establishing a notion of the quantum state that applies consistently across space and time could be a crucial step toward formulating a relativistic quantum theory. We give an operational meaning to multipartite quantum states over arbitrary regions in spacetime through a causally agnostic measurement, a measurement scheme that can be consistently implemented independently of the causal relation between the regions. We prove that such measurements can always be implemented with interferometry, also known as the scattering circuit technique, wherein the conventional density operator, the recently developed quantum state over time (QSOT), and the process matrix formalisms smoothly merge. This framework allows for a systematic study of mixed states in the temporal setting, which turn out to be crucial for modeling quantum non-Markovianity. Based on this, we demonstrate that two different ensembles of quantum dynamics can be represented by the same QSOT, indicating that they cannot be distinguished through interferometry. Moreover, our formalism reveals a new type of spatiotemporal correlation between two quantum dynamics that originates from synchronized propagation in time under time-reversal symmetry. We show that quantum systems with such correlation can be utilized as a reference frame to distinguish certain dynamics indistinguishable under time-reversal symmetry.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2507.19258 by Hyukjoon Kwon, Seok Hyung Lie.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: FIG. 1 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: FIG. 2. Examples of (in)distinguishable qubit QSOTs represented by [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: FIG. 3. (a) Measurement of process matrix. Alice and Bob, confined [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_3.png] view at source ↗

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