Arbitrary high order shaped stencils for time domain finite difference schemes in seismic wave propagation
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The pith
Dispersion-optimized cross stencils achieve adequate accuracy in acoustic wave modeling at lower computational cost than rhombus or square shapes.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
A general mathematical framework is proposed for deriving high-order in space finite difference schemes for acoustic wave propagation featuring different stencil geometries ranging from classical cross stencils to stencils with rhombus or square-like shapes. Non-cross stencil shapes such as rhombus and square-based stencils do not necessarily provide added accuracy or dispersion reduction in general despite their increased computational cost, while results confirm the benefits of using dispersion-optimized cross-stencils indicating adequate accuracy with reduced computational cost on more compact stencils compared to classic approaches.
What carries the argument
The general mathematical framework for deriving finite difference stencils with geometries ranging from cross to rhombus or square-like shapes, implemented via symbolic compilation.
If this is right
- Optimized cross stencils can support full-scale acoustic seismic inversion at lower cost while retaining accuracy.
- Symbolic compilation enables rapid testing and deployment of varied stencil geometries for wave modeling.
- Classic Taylor series expansions can be replaced by dispersion-optimized coefficients on compact cross supports.
- Non-cross shapes may be avoided in favor of cross stencils for routine seismic propagation tasks.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The framework could extend directly to elastic or anisotropic wave equations without changing the derivation approach.
- Compact optimized cross stencils may allow finer grids within fixed compute budgets for higher-resolution imaging.
- Dispersion optimization focused only on cross shapes could yield further efficiency gains in 3D settings.
Load-bearing premise
The chosen idealized and realistic velocity models together with the symbolic compiler are sufficient to show that non-cross stencil shapes lack general superiority across seismic applications.
What would settle it
A comparison on a velocity model with stronger heterogeneities or higher frequencies where a rhombus stencil produces measurably lower dispersion error per unit cost than the optimized cross stencil.
read the original abstract
Finite Difference Schemes are widely used in the approximation of different hyperbolic (wave-like) differential equations, and are particularly important for seismic wave modelling and its applications. Classical methods based on Taylor Series are dominant in the literature; however, it is known that these methods can suffer from excessive numerical dispersion. In this paper, we review and extend existing high-order in space finite difference schemes for acoustic wave propagation, featuring different stencil geometries ranging from classical cross stencils to stencils with rhombus or square-like shapes, and propose a general mathematical framework for their derivation. The numerical implementation is performed in a symbolic, high-level framework (Devito), which compiles and runs highly optimized, stencil-based computations, allowing for a low-level interpretation of the methods efficiency. We demonstrate that non-cross stencil shapes, such as rhombus and square-based stencils, do not necessarily provide added accuracy or dispersion reduction in general, despite their increased computational cost. However, results on both idealized and realistic velocity models confirm the benefits of using dispersion-optimized cross-stencils, indicating adequate accuracy with reduced computational cost on more compact stencils compared to classic approaches. Finally, our implementation of the methods provides ease of use for full-scale acoustic seismic inversion problems using Devito.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper reviews and extends high-order finite difference schemes for acoustic wave propagation, presenting a general mathematical framework for deriving stencils of varying geometries (cross, rhombus, square-like). It implements these in the Devito symbolic framework for optimized computations and uses numerical tests on idealized and realistic velocity models to claim that non-cross stencils do not necessarily improve accuracy or reduce dispersion despite higher cost, while dispersion-optimized cross-stencils achieve adequate accuracy at lower computational cost.
Significance. If the numerical findings hold under broader conditions, the work could inform more efficient stencil selection in seismic modeling applications. The symbolic derivation and compilation approach in Devito is a clear strength, enabling reproducible high-level specification of stencils and low-level optimization.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract, §4] Abstract and §4 (numerical results): The central claim that non-cross stencils 'do not necessarily provide added accuracy or dispersion reduction in general' rests entirely on tests with specific idealized and realistic velocity models via Devito; no theoretical dispersion analysis or sensitivity study across frequencies, dimensions, or heterogeneity levels is supplied to underwrite the generalization, leaving the 'in general' qualifier unsecured.
- [Abstract] Abstract: Conclusions are drawn from numerical tests without reporting quantitative error metrics (e.g., L2 or dispersion error norms), dispersion curves, or the precise procedure and parameters used for dispersion optimization, preventing independent verification of the accuracy and cost claims.
minor comments (1)
- [Abstract] The abstract would be strengthened by including at least one key quantitative result (e.g., error reduction factor or runtime comparison) to support the stated benefits of optimized cross-stencils.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive feedback. We address the major comments below and will revise the manuscript to improve the precision of our claims and the verifiability of the results.
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Referee: [Abstract, §4] Abstract and §4 (numerical results): The central claim that non-cross stencils 'do not necessarily provide added accuracy or dispersion reduction in general' rests entirely on tests with specific idealized and realistic velocity models via Devito; no theoretical dispersion analysis or sensitivity study across frequencies, dimensions, or heterogeneity levels is supplied to underwrite the generalization, leaving the 'in general' qualifier unsecured.
Authors: We agree that the qualifier 'in general' is not fully supported by a theoretical analysis and rests on the numerical tests performed. The paper's primary contribution is the general mathematical framework for deriving stencils of arbitrary shapes together with its Devito implementation; the numerical section demonstrates the practical outcome on the chosen models. We will revise the abstract and §4 to qualify the statement (e.g., 'in the tested configurations') and will consider adding a limited sensitivity study if space permits. A comprehensive theoretical dispersion analysis across all parameter regimes lies outside the present scope. revision: partial
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: Conclusions are drawn from numerical tests without reporting quantitative error metrics (e.g., L2 or dispersion error norms), dispersion curves, or the precise procedure and parameters used for dispersion optimization, preventing independent verification of the accuracy and cost claims.
Authors: Section 4 of the manuscript already presents quantitative comparisons of accuracy and computational cost, including error measures for the different stencil geometries. To improve verifiability we will (i) add explicit references in the abstract to the key quantitative metrics shown in §4, (ii) ensure the dispersion-optimization procedure and all parameters are stated with full precision in the methods, and (iii) include representative dispersion curves as an additional figure or supplementary material. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: claims rest on independent numerical experiments
full rationale
The paper proposes a general mathematical framework for deriving high-order FD stencils of varying geometries and validates conclusions via numerical tests on idealized and realistic velocity models implemented in Devito. No load-bearing step reduces a prediction to a fitted parameter by construction, invokes a self-citation as the sole justification for a uniqueness claim, or renames an input as an output. The central empirical finding (non-cross stencils do not add accuracy in general) is presented as a result of the reported runs rather than a definitional identity. This is the common honest case of a self-contained numerical study.
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